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what makes "electronica" harder, speed or bass?

nice_scientist Posted: 20.01.2003, 02:52

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Sitting around with some friends the other day listening to some new vancouver basscore resistance (don't worry it will be here soon enough) having a conversation about the "electronica" genra when we came upon a question. What is it that makes any certain techno genra or song "harder" than another, is it the lyrics, the speed, the bass or the pitch of the always inevitable high pitch space shooty noise?



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d34df411 Posted: 20.01.2003, 03:01

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neither really.......I mean............. on their own both have potential to suck..and put togethor they also can suck ass (happy hardcore *vomit*) ...I think its the overall music..not just one little part of it


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Speedcore Posted: 22.01.2003, 18:35

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I think it's the crucial combination of my dick and your mouth.

I was going to say "fist" instead of "dick," but "dick" is more HARDCORE, see? So my answer is that ABSOLUTELY NOTHING DEFINES ANYTHING.

When you say "Vancouver," you mean B.C., right? Because Vancouver, WA is my territory, and you best not be steppin. No no. The thing here is terminal samplecore.

Okay, so I'm not that much of a badass anymore. Big deal.


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skeeter Posted: 22.01.2003, 19:31

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hey watch it. i might have to moderate this situation.
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Speedcore Posted: 23.01.2003, 06:59

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Phooey. You're no fun.


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LMS Posted: 23.01.2003, 08:25

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yeah skeeter is right, even if speedbass is a hardcore music I've think you've mistaken which kind of hardcore it is... vulgarity is not always hardcore and speedbass should tend to be on the fun side of it
It brings me to another question that we could develop in this thread: how hardcore is speedbass??
I've noticed that speedbass is now much more noisy that it was at the beginning, even painfull sometimes, and many people think that speedbass is like speedcore, but if you listen to the old E's on [k] , Garth Vader or Onions stuff, it's really far away from it...

My point of view is that we should open a little bit more the stuff and try to bring more diversity, I mean speedbass is what we make of it and anything that sounds electronic or computermade and that doesn't fall into techno's stereotypes can potentially be speedbass so we should try to bring new blood into the stuff...

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d34df411 Posted: 23.01.2003, 17:44

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speedbass has gotten a lot harder than the original stuff...speedbass is just a big muddle of genres.....it can be extremely hard terrorcore or it can be ..........dance dub retardcore...


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skeeter Posted: 23.01.2003, 19:02

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the only similarity between speedbass and speedcore is the tempo. speedbass has nothing to do with stupid dun dun speedcore.

for me there is a formula that i follow when wrting a speedbass track. for just as much as the tempo is spiraling out of control there is an element to the song that anchors it to a discernable rhythm. usually this is the bass or the kick line or a half time breakbeat. granted my ideas of rhythm are a little bit skew from the average "raver" as ill get funky to venetian snares.

ol skool speedbass (listen to any f23 song as an example) followed that for instance if you had a 4 to the floor kickline at 300bpm you'd overlay it with a 150bpm breakbeat so that people could groove to it without dying from a heartattack. then add some silly samples of some cowboy saying oh shit and you have yourself a speedbass track.

i also seen a trend where people have been posting tracks that are not exactly speedbass. myself included. now i know lms doesn't have a hispeed connex so he can't check out the all the tracks so alot of stuff that aint really speedbass gets by.

so rather than writing a song and then saying "hey this kinda sounds like speedbass ill post it to speedbass dot net". actually set out to write a speedbass track.

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d34df411 Posted: 24.01.2003, 02:11

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yea...I'm guilty of doing that...I don't think any of my tracks are actually speedbass...cept the banda one..and thats bandabass...


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skeeter Posted: 25.01.2003, 21:55

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bandabass is tr00
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Speedcore Posted: 31.01.2003, 08:59

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Oy, god forbid I express myself in a show of faux anger. You people have no sense of humour.

I think all this high minded thinking about speedbass is bogus. In fact, talking about speedbass at all is pretty bogus.

I'm not trying to start a "flame war," as the internet savvy like to say. I don't really think I've "mistaken" anything. I just don't see where there's any room whatsoever for rational thought in this...branch of aesthetica.

Bah. I'm full of it.


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Fboy Posted: 25.03.2003, 06:14

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I always think of speedbass as a good idea ruined by clipping, high tempos and fart noises.

i mean, theres obviously a difference between a trance 'song' and speedbass... but you can definetly write a trance inspired speedbass song


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d34df411 Posted: 25.03.2003, 17:45

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... but you can definetly write a trance inspired speedbass song


trance?!??!? GROSS!!!


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Fboy Posted: 26.03.2003, 14:23

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ewwww thats like touching girls


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skeeter Posted: 01.04.2003, 06:22

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flame war? and me sleeping at the wheel. woah!

being all "talking about speedbass is so untr00 speedbass" is so ol skool speedbass. this is post-speedbass now. remember from california to paris. surf and sun to existentialism.

post-speedbass is haute culture. :P

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